Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

05/12/2007 09:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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*+ HJR 25 SUPPORTING RIGHT TO FORM LABOR UNIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ HB 252 LEAVE FOR ORGAN/BONE MARROW DONATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 252(STA) Out of Committee
+ SB 171 JUDICIAL RETENTION CANDIDACY WITHDRAWAL TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HB 252-LEAVE FOR ORGAN/BONE MARROW DONATIONS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:10:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  announced that  the next order  of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  252 "An Act requiring paid  leave from employment                                                               
for organ and bone marrow donation."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN clarified  that CSHB  252(HES), Version  25-LS0817\E,                                                               
was before the committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:11:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GABRIELLE   LEDOUX,  Alaska   State  Legislature,                                                               
presented HB  252 as prime  sponsor.   She explained that  HB 252                                                               
would  require the  State  of Alaska  to grant  a  paid leave  of                                                               
absence  to an  employee for  the  purpose of  making a  personal                                                               
organ  or  bone marrow  donation.    The  employer would  not  be                                                               
required to  provide more  than 80 hours  of leave;  however, the                                                               
leave could not  be less than 40 hours, unless  the employee were                                                               
to request  fewer hours.   She  noted that  there are  nearly 160                                                               
patients in  Alaska waiting for  a kidney transplant,  while less                                                               
than 100 people in Alaska are awaiting a bone marrow transplant.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:12:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES moved  to  adopt  the committee  substitute                                                               
(CS), Version 25-LS0817\M, Mischel, 5/11/07, as a work draft.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:13:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG objected for discussion purposes.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:13:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINE  MARASIGAN, Staff  to Representative  Gabrielle LeDoux,                                                               
Alaska  State Legislature,  on behalf  of Representative  LeDoux,                                                               
prime sponsor of HB 252, explained the changes to Version M.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:13:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG removed  his  objection  to Version  M.                                                               
There  being  no further  objection,  Version  M was  before  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:14:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DOLL cited  language  in Section  4,  on page  2,                                                               
beginning on line 18, which read as follows:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      Paid administrative leave may not include time spent                                                                      
        on a screening process to determine whether the                                                                         
     employee is a compatible donor.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOLL offered her  understanding that the screening                                                               
process  is often  lengthy, and  she asked  why it  could not  be                                                               
included in the leave time.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARASIGAN explained  that the  [House Health,  Education and                                                               
Social  Services Standing  Committee] had  specifically requested                                                               
that any language regarding testing  be deleted, because it could                                                               
be possible  for someone  to request leave  multiple times.   She                                                               
said the  process of screening for  a bone marrow donor  does not                                                               
take  long;  however,  the process  of  screening  a  prospective                                                               
kidney donor  can be more involved.   In response to  a follow-up                                                               
question from Representative Doll,  she explained that if someone                                                               
is  already  on  "the  list" he/she  has  already  completed  the                                                               
screening process;  therefore, the idea  is that he/she  will use                                                               
the leave time for the actual donation.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOLL  revealed that  she had  taken steps  to find                                                               
out if  one of  her kidneys  was compatible  with [Representative                                                               
Richard  Foster who  is  waiting for  a  kidney transplant],  and                                                               
during that process she found  out that the early testing process                                                               
is lengthy.  She concluded, "I  would think that we would want to                                                               
say something about that here."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX said  she would not object  to an amendment                                                               
to that effect, since that was  the language of the original bill                                                               
version.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN asked  if adding that language would  slow the process                                                               
and, if so, if it would be  better to expand the legislation in a                                                               
later bill.  He  said time is of the essence  both for the people                                                               
involved in the transplants and for the legislature.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:17:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  said those members of  the first committee                                                               
of referral may  not favor seeing the language they  voted out of                                                               
the bill reinstated, which could slow  the bill process down.  In                                                               
response to  Chair Lynn, she  offered her understanding  that the                                                               
bill is accompanied by an indeterminate fiscal note.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:18:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DOLL suggested  the word  "not" could  be deleted                                                               
from the aforementioned language [text provided previously].                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX [nodded yes.]                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:18:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  concurred with  Representative  Doll's                                                               
suggestion.   He  spoke  of  Stan Robbins,  the  late husband  of                                                               
Representative  Sharon Cissna,  who  he said  lived  a number  of                                                               
years thanks to  a kidney transplant.  He asked  the bill sponsor                                                               
if she would mind adding Mr.  Robbins' name to the short title of                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LeDOUX replied that she would not mind.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:19:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARASIGAN,   in  response  to  a   query  by  Representative                                                               
Gruenberg, said current  statute allows someone to  take leave to                                                               
care  for someone  who  is  sick.   Regarding  donors, she  said,                                                               
"Because  you're  a healthy  person  when  your donate,  it's  an                                                               
elective surgery, so  it's not part of ... what's  already on the                                                               
books."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:21:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG directed  attention to  [page 2,  lines                                                               
28-29], which  says an employee  is someone "who is  employed for                                                               
an average  of 30 or  more scheduled hours  each week and  who is                                                               
paid  by  a  warrant  issued  by the  state."    He  offered  his                                                               
understanding that many state  employees are paid electronically;                                                               
they  are no  longer  paid by  warrant.   He  suggested that  the                                                               
language could read simply, "who is paid by the state".                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARASIGAN called  Representative  Gruenberg's observation  a                                                               
good one  and explained  that that language  exists because  of a                                                               
recommendation  by   the  House  Health,  Education   and  Social                                                               
Services Standing Committee.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  turned to [page 2,  lines 25-27], which                                                               
list  the following  state agencies:    "executive, judicial,  or                                                               
legislative  branch  of  state government,  the  Alaska  Railroad                                                               
Corporation, or  the University  of Alaska".   He  suggested that                                                               
the  following be  considered  for  addition to  the  list:   the                                                               
Alaska Housing  Finance Corporation (AHFC), the  Alaska Permanent                                                               
Fund  Corporation, the  Judicial Council,  and the  Commission on                                                               
Judicial Conduct.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARASIGAN, in  response to  a  question from  Representative                                                               
Gruenberg, confirmed that  it is the sponsor's  intent to include                                                               
all state employees.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:22:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARASIGAN,  in response  to  a  request from  Representative                                                               
Coghill,  reiterated the  timing  involved for  a  donor of  bone                                                               
marrow and  of a kidney.   She offered more detail  regarding the                                                               
latter.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  indicated that the language  in Version M                                                               
would not  stop a  donor from  making a  leave request  more than                                                               
once.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARASIGAN offered  her understanding  that  the donor  would                                                               
request leave one time to cover preparation and donation time.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:25:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN, after ascertaining that  there was no one to testify,                                                               
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:25:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOLL moved to adopt Amendment 1 as follows:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 18                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          Between "may" and "include"                                                                                           
          Delete "not"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES  objected.    He  offered  some  background                                                               
related to the discussion of  the previous committee of referral.                                                               
He stated  that most screenings  are done  locally.  He  said the                                                               
reasoning behind  not allowing multiple  leave is that  the donor                                                               
does not have to  fly to where the donee is  except at the actual                                                               
time  of  donation.    Further  testing  and  screening  is  done                                                               
directly before  the operation,  which would  be included  in the                                                               
single leave time.  He indicated  that using the phrase "may not"                                                               
would allow someone to appeal his/her case.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:28:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  said unfortunately that is  not the way                                                               
the   court  would   interpret  that   language;  "may   not"  is                                                               
prohibitive language, he explained.   He said allowing someone to                                                               
take leave before  the leave taken for the  actual procedure, for                                                               
example,  to   undergo  screening,  would  save   lives,  and  he                                                               
expressed  his hope  that Representative  Roses would  remove his                                                               
objection.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:29:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES  removed his  objection.    There being  no                                                               
further objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:29:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG moved to adopt Amendment 2 as follows:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 29:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          Between "who is paid" and "by the state"                                                                              
          Delete "by a warrant issued"                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:30:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  moved to adopt Conceptual  Amendment 3,                                                               
on page  2, line  27, after  "University of  Alaska," to  add any                                                               
other  appropriate  entities,  including Alaska  Housing  Finance                                                               
Corporation,  the   Permanent  Fund  Corporation,   the  Judicial                                                               
Council, and the Commission on Judicial Conduct.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN  asked  if  there was  any  objection  to  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 3.  There being none, it was so ordered.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:31:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG moved to adopt Amendment 4, as follows:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     On page 1, line 5:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          Between "Richard Foster" and "and Alex Cesar"                                                                         
          Insert ", Stanley M. Robbins"                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG,  in response  to a question  from Chair                                                               
Lynn, said the  names could appear in any order  that the sponsor                                                               
wishes.  Furthermore, he told Chair  Lynn that he is certain that                                                               
Representative Cissna would [approve].                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN asked  if there  was  any objection  to Amendment  4.                                                               
There being none, it was so ordered.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:32:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DOLL  moved  to  report  CSHB  252,  Version  25-                                                               
LS0817\M,  Mischel, 5/11/07,  as amended,  out of  committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
There being no  objection, CSHB 252(STA) was reported  out of the                                                               
House State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                         

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